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« on: August 31, 2008, 03:21:20 am »

ASSLESS CHAPS!!!! I crack me up!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2008, 02:02:50 pm »

New police chief on tap

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1137330,4_1_JO31_CHIEF_S1.article


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By BRIAN STANLEY bstanley@scn1.com

BOLINGBROOK -- The police department's second-in-command will take over when Chief Ray McGury leaves next month.

Deputy Chief Kevin McCarthy will be sworn in as chief Sept. 9 and assume leadership of the department three days later.

McGury, 48, a 20-year-veteran of the Naperville Police Department, has served as Bolingbrook's chief since 2005. On Thursday he was named Executive Director of the Naperville Park District.

In an interview last week McGury said he was not looking to leave the department, which has been a focus of the media since the October disappearance of Stacy Peterson, wife of former Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson. Joining the Park District was simply an opportunity that presented itself, McGury said.

"Life is all about options and opportunities," he said. "All I'm doing is exercising some options. I'm not running from anything."

Earlier this year McGury and Bolingbrook Mayor Roger Claar sparred over a press release related to a string of robberies in Bolingbrook.

In December, the mayor said he would review all news releases before they were sent out. According to reports, McGury issued a release about the robberies after a week passed without hearing from Claar.

"It has nothing to do with that at all," McGury said. "Things are just fine with the mayor."

McGury also expressed regret he will no longer be involved in the investigation into Stacy Peterson's disappearance.

"My heart would be heavy in a sense I would like to see this through as police chief," he said.

McGury and his wife, Sue, have three sons.

McCarthy grew up in Romeoville and joined the Bolingbrook Department in June 1984. He was promoted to sergeant in 1995 and named Deputy Chief in early 2006.

"This was unexpected," McCarthy said of his promotion. "Ray has only talked to me about the possibility of taking the park district job for the last week. He called me Thursday night, said he was resigning and he had just talked to the mayor about having me take over. A short time later, Mayor Claar asked me to meet with him and he offered me the position.

"To be honest, (becoming chief) is very bittersweet," McCarthy said. "Ray McGury is a friend of mine. I have a lot of respect for him and thought we've worked very well together. I kind of hoped he'd turn down (the park district job) if it was offered to him."

McCarthy also believes his management style is similar to McGury's.

"I've worked with everyone here and I don't forsee any major shifts in personnel. I think my biggest challenge (as chief) will be dealing with the economy and trying to make ends meet with the resources we have," he said.

He's also no stranger to high-pressure situations, having worked undercover on the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad.

In 1987, McCarthy was carrying a briefcase with $38,000 in marked bills, when one of three drug dealers he was buying a kilo of **** from became suspicious.

The dealer searched McCarthy and found he was wearing a wire, another started to beat him with a baseball bat while the third put a gun to his head.

MANS agent Martin Shifflet ran from his surveillance car and through several back yards to aid McCarthy inside the house. The dealer who was armed shot at Shifflet, but missed.

McCarthy was made MANS deputy director in 2003. At the time of his appointment, Shifflet called him "one of the finest police officers I've ever worked with."

McCarthy's wife, Cheryl, has served as the principal at Joliet West High School for six years. The couple has a daughter, Kelly.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2008, 09:03:18 pm »

ASSLESS CHAPS!!!! I crack me up!!
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 12:51:35 am »

Hey I got the dates wrong, dayum! Oh well, we didnt have a 31st this year, LOL!
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Reporter's book on Peterson saga hits store shelves today

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The first book about former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson and the deaths of two of his wives hits bookstores today.

"Fatal Vows: The Tragic Wives of Sergeant Drew Peterson" is written by Joseph Hosey, a reporter for The Herald News in Joliet, a sister publication of The Sun and part of Fox Valley Publications and the Sun-Times News Group.

Amazon.com's description of the book says Hosey has been a reporter for The Herald News since 1999 "and has been on the cusp of every major development in the Drew Peterson case. He is the only member of the media to cover Kathleen Savio's inquest, having broken the stories of her death and, later, the disappearance of Stacy Peterson."

Amazon goes on to say that in October, 23-year-old Stacy Peterson vanished from Bolingbrook, leaving behind her husband and children. Drew Peterson, 30 years Stacy's senior, "steadfastly asserted his innocence and maintained that his wife had simply fled their tumultuous marriage and run off with another man."

"Throngs of journalists and camera crews besieged Peterson's quiet suburban cul-de-sac, but the ex-cop seemed to relish in this newfound limelight.

As exhaustive searches for Stacy's body turned up nothing and suggestive clues led nowhere, questions were raised: about their unusual marriage, about Stacy's past vocal concerns for her safety, and about Drew Peterson's bizarre public behavior in the wake of Stacy's disappearance," Amazon says.

In February, after the body of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, was exhumed and additional autopsies were performed, Savio's death was ruled a homicide. Three and a half years earlier, Savio had been found dead in the bathtub of their home.

"Drawing upon exclusive interviews with Stacy's friends and family and even Drew himself, Chicago-area reporter Joseph Hosey presents the most researched account of the Stacy Peterson case yet. Still, as the charges against Drew Peterson mount, one haunting question remains: Where on Earth is Stacy?" Amazon says.
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I WANTED TO SHOW EVERYONE SOMETHING A STUDENT POSTED ON GRETA'S AND ACANDYROSE HAS THIS POSTED ALSO


http://www.acandyrose.com/2007-12-04-GretaWireBlogMelissa.htm

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http://tinyurl.com/Hoyle

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December 3rd, 2007 10:28 AM Eastern

Drew Peterson: “…crazies coming out of the woodwork?”

by Greta Van Susteren




Comment by Melissa Hoyle

December 4th, 2007 at 11:21 am



Hi Greta,

I am a (non-traditional) criminology student, currently on a leave-of-absence from my Master’s program. I tried to post this tip several days ago but a computer glitch resulted in the loss of my post that I had foolishly failed to save. This is actually a tip… but it takes too much space, and too many words, to post it all; and your “tip box” is so tiny, I get the impression that it is so small in an effort to discourage lengthy tips.



I picked up on this information the evening that Michael Baden summarized the autopsy on Greta’s show. I was sure others would see the discrepancies too. But, to date, it seems that not one person appearing on the news shows has noticed the same thing I noticed.



SO HERE’S MY TIP:

I believe Steve Carcerano, despite his apparent support of Drew Peterson’s innocence, absolutely (and unwittingly) holds the key to the evidence that the DA needs to try Peterson for the murder of Kathleen Savio. It’s ironic that the information has been right in front of the viewer’s face; and, in your case, right in front of your cameras. But, it’s uber-ironic that one of Drew Peterson’s few supporters is the one witness who can offer the testimony that can put a jury over-the-top of the “reasonable doubt” hurdle. And it’s nearly a certainty that he has no idea! The average person may know a bit about forensics, but not enough to know when a truthful recounting of what was observed at the scene of an “accident” three years ago, are now words capable of weaving a noose!



In the first few days of news coverage concerning the missing Stacey Peterson, Carcerano freely gave two press interviews detailing his “first person” account of finding Ms. Savio’s body in her bathtub back in 2004. The two stories, recounting his role as the FIRST PERSON to see her body, were consistent with each other and quite credible. In the second interview, he went into more detail than he had in the first interview, but there were no discrepancies between the two.



Carcerano described Kathleen Savio as “discolored” (paraphrased), and described her “wet hair” down over the front of her face. He said there was a small amount of blood coming from her nose. Carcerano went on to dispute the coroner’s observation of “blood-soaked hair” and adamantly denied seeing any blood soaked into Ms. Savio’s hair. When he was asked if he touched or moved her body, he said he HAD NOT.



Carcerano’s statement clearly indicates that he found Ms. Savio’s body FACE-UP! This is a position that DOES NOT FIT the forensic findings at all three autopsies! There is clear evidence of livor mortis indicating that Kathleen Savio’s body was FACE-DOWN for many hours after her death, and the body had gone into, and then come out of, rigor mortis during the (at least) 24 hours she lay undiscovered in her home. The blood in her body had settled and coagulated internally, DISCOLORING her dead body at the LOWEST POINT, courtesy of gravity. Also, the scalp injury Ms. Savio suffered was located on the BACK of her head, soaking the hair with blood in that limited surrounding area. The hair on the front side of her head, that “covered her face,” as Carcerano described, would have given little-to-no indication of the injury, or the blood-soaked hair around it, if the body was discovered face-up and left untouched and unmoved during the time Carcerano remained at the scene. And, too, one has to wonder how Ms. Savio’s hair could have possibly still been wet when an estimated thirty hours passed between her death and her discovery. Even the slowest-leaking bathtub stopper would have drained a full tub within five hours, leaving twenty-five more hours for Ms. Savio’s hair to dry; and even the thickest head-of-hair could not remain damp all that time.



If Steve Carcerano did indeed discover Kathleen Savio’s body “discolored” and with “her hair in front of her face” and with “a small amount of blood coming from her nose” and absent the “blood- soaked hair” described in the first autopsy, then he clearly discovered the body FACE-UP. And if that is the case, then Ms. Savio’s body was MOVED by someone AFTER she had been lying dead, in the same face-down position, for many hours!



Despite the silly theatrics of summoning a locksmith, a bit of drama staged for the benefit of his former neighbors (all of whom he must have believed were incredibly gullible), only Drew Peterson could have moved Ms. Savio’s body hours after she had died (her body remaining in the same face-down position creating liver mortis), leaving no signs of forced entry, and re-locking the house.



These two very neighbors whom Peterson recruited and sent into the Savio home in front of him (allowing them to “find” the body) had also witnessed a major incident on the Savio front lawn where Kathleen flew into a rage because Stacey was videotaping a “child exchange” with Kathleen’s OWN camera; an item that was among those she had reported stolen from her home, with no forced entry, while she was at work. Of course she had told the police the thefts were the work of Drew Peterson, but her claims were regarded as only suspicion. Drew’s possession of her stolen camera (by proxy, through Stacey) flaunted on her own front lawn, proved that her suspicions were correct. And it also proved that Drew Peterson could come and go as he pleased in his ex wife’s house, regardless of Kathleen’s wishes or protests. So there certainly was no need for a locksmith that night, and I’m sure that those who knew both Drew and Kathleen couldn’t have helped but roll their eyes at the transparency, and absurdity, of that event. Why not just call for back-up from his fellow officers if he was so concerned? The police have a right to break into any home and do a welfare check when requested by family members, and Drew could have waited outside as a “family member” and allow his fellow officers to go in and do the check. Instead, he illegally called a locksmith before, he claims, he knew there was anything wrong with Ms. Savio at all! And he sends her best friend and another civillian neighbor into the house rather than the police who are supposed to be the ones who do such things.



In my opinion, the livor mortis, and the position of the body when Steve Carcerano “discovered” her body, is the key to charging Drew Peterson with Kathleen Savio’s murder.



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Comment by Melissa Hoyle

December 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pm



Hi Naples!



What I believe is possibly what Peterson was thinking is that NO ONE would believe it was a slip- and-fall tub accident if they found her body face down in a tub full of water. It’s literally impossible to accidently fall and land in that position. The person would have to do a full “twist,” mid-fall, to end up face down.



If she had fallen while standing in the tub, and for some reason her feet had slipped out from under her while she had been facing the BACK of the tub (opposite the shower head), then she could have ended up face down, but the laceration to her head would have been located on her forehead… not on the back of her head.



I think Drew thought logically about the crime beforehand, when he was calm and relaxed, pleasantly planning the murder of Kathleen (and I personally believe her death was definitely a planned murder, and not at all a crime of passion.) I think he knew enough to realize there needed to be an injury to the back of her head to make the “fall-and-knock-herself-out-so-she-could-drown” scenario seem viable. And because of this reasoning on his part, I believe the blow to the back of the head was the first injury inflicted upon Kathleen. He somehow talked his way into the house with a ruse she believed to be genuine, and the first time she turned her back to him, he ambushed her by striking her in the back of the head with something he was sure would cause instant unconsciousness. But it didn’t… and she turned to face him and started fighting him fiercely.



His plan had gone awry, he was forced to improvise, and her ability to fight back and really hurt him was something he never planned on happening. He was forced to fight for the upper-hand and that impaired his ability to think within the confines of “the plan” and get back on track with his well -planned murder. This made him angry and the rage built until his strength easily regained the role of attacker, and he forced her head down, probably into the toilet rather than the tub. There is no reason to believe the tub would have been filled at that time. Pre-filling the tub would have been an ominous sign, sure to tip Kathleen off that something deadly was about to happen.



I think she probably drowned in the toilet, after which time Drew removed her clothing while filling the tub. Because he was still in a fit of rage, very angry at Kathleen for forcing him to cause several injuries to her that he might have to explain to the police… not his buddies, but the county sheriff’s office… and that wasn’t part of his plan! Because of his still-uncontrolled rage because of all that had gone wrong, he could not think logically at that time, and he hauled her off the floor and dumped her body head-first into the newly filled tub. Then he left in rage and disgust.



But, hours later, after he had given himself enough time (and probably enough booze) to calm down and begin thinking rationally, he realized her body could not be found the way he had left it. He needed to turn her onto her back, with her head immersed under water and the gash in her scalp on the back of her head. If she were found in this position, it might be believeable that she lost her footing… fell backwards putting the gash in her head and knocking her unconscious… at which time she tragically slipped, unconscious, under the water, on her back, and drowned in the full tub. But he was forced to wait too long before he could slip back inside the Savio home unnoticed and reposition her body so that it would be consistent with that “accidental falling death” scenario. He was probably surprised to find the tub empty where the water had slowly leaked out around the stopper. So he refilled it after repositioning her body and attempted to adjust the stopper so it would not leak again, but he failed at that task, it would appear. By the time he had restaged the scene, livor mortis on Kathleen’s body was able to tell a story of its own.


The front of her body must have been so purple that Steve Carcerano at first thought the object in the tub was a colorful beach ball! But because he had never seen a dead body that had not been embalmed and laid out in a casket, Carcerano was not aware that the discoloration was located in the wrong place for Kathleen to have died and remained in that position until he found her while doing a good deed for his friend, Drew Peterson.

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I WANTED TO SHOW EVERYONE SOMETHING A STUDENT POSTED ON GRETA'S AND ACANDYROSE HAS THIS POSTED ALSO


http://www.acandyrose.com/2007-12-04-GretaWireBlogMelissa.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/Hoyle

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December 3rd, 2007 10:28 AM Eastern

Drew Peterson: “…crazies coming out of the woodwork?”

by Greta Van Susteren




Comment by Melissa Hoyle

December 4th, 2007 at 11:21 am



Hi Greta,

I am a (non-traditional) criminology student, currently on a leave-of-absence from my Master’s program. I tried to post this tip several days ago but a computer glitch resulted in the loss of my post that I had foolishly failed to save. This is actually a tip… but it takes too much space, and too many words, to post it all; and your “tip box” is so tiny, I get the impression that it is so small in an effort to discourage lengthy tips.



I picked up on this information the evening that Michael Baden summarized the autopsy on Greta’s show. I was sure others would see the discrepancies too. But, to date, it seems that not one person appearing on the news shows has noticed the same thing I noticed.



SO HERE’S MY TIP:

I believe Steve Carcerano, despite his apparent support of Drew Peterson’s innocence, absolutely (and unwittingly) holds the key to the evidence that the DA needs to try Peterson for the murder of Kathleen Savio. It’s ironic that the information has been right in front of the viewer’s face; and, in your case, right in front of your cameras. But, it’s uber-ironic that one of Drew Peterson’s few supporters is the one witness who can offer the testimony that can put a jury over-the-top of the “reasonable doubt” hurdle. And it’s nearly a certainty that he has no idea! The average person may know a bit about forensics, but not enough to know when a truthful recounting of what was observed at the scene of an “accident” three years ago, are now words capable of weaving a noose!



In the first few days of news coverage concerning the missing Stacey Peterson, Carcerano freely gave two press interviews detailing his “first person” account of finding Ms. Savio’s body in her bathtub back in 2004. The two stories, recounting his role as the FIRST PERSON to see her body, were consistent with each other and quite credible. In the second interview, he went into more detail than he had in the first interview, but there were no discrepancies between the two.



Carcerano described Kathleen Savio as “discolored” (paraphrased), and described her “wet hair” down over the front of her face. He said there was a small amount of blood coming from her nose. Carcerano went on to dispute the coroner’s observation of “blood-soaked hair” and adamantly denied seeing any blood soaked into Ms. Savio’s hair. When he was asked if he touched or moved her body, he said he HAD NOT.



Carcerano’s statement clearly indicates that he found Ms. Savio’s body FACE-UP! This is a position that DOES NOT FIT the forensic findings at all three autopsies! There is clear evidence of livor mortis indicating that Kathleen Savio’s body was FACE-DOWN for many hours after her death, and the body had gone into, and then come out of, rigor mortis during the (at least) 24 hours she lay undiscovered in her home. The blood in her body had settled and coagulated internally, DISCOLORING her dead body at the LOWEST POINT, courtesy of gravity. Also, the scalp injury Ms. Savio suffered was located on the BACK of her head, soaking the hair with blood in that limited surrounding area. The hair on the front side of her head, that “covered her face,” as Carcerano described, would have given little-to-no indication of the injury, or the blood-soaked hair around it, if the body was discovered face-up and left untouched and unmoved during the time Carcerano remained at the scene. And, too, one has to wonder how Ms. Savio’s hair could have possibly still been wet when an estimated thirty hours passed between her death and her discovery. Even the slowest-leaking bathtub stopper would have drained a full tub within five hours, leaving twenty-five more hours for Ms. Savio’s hair to dry; and even the thickest head-of-hair could not remain damp all that time.



If Steve Carcerano did indeed discover Kathleen Savio’s body “discolored” and with “her hair in front of her face” and with “a small amount of blood coming from her nose” and absent the “blood- soaked hair” described in the first autopsy, then he clearly discovered the body FACE-UP. And if that is the case, then Ms. Savio’s body was MOVED by someone AFTER she had been lying dead, in the same face-down position, for many hours!



Despite the silly theatrics of summoning a locksmith, a bit of drama staged for the benefit of his former neighbors (all of whom he must have believed were incredibly gullible), only Drew Peterson could have moved Ms. Savio’s body hours after she had died (her body remaining in the same face-down position creating liver mortis), leaving no signs of forced entry, and re-locking the house.



These two very neighbors whom Peterson recruited and sent into the Savio home in front of him (allowing them to “find” the body) had also witnessed a major incident on the Savio front lawn where Kathleen flew into a rage because Stacey was videotaping a “child exchange” with Kathleen’s OWN camera; an item that was among those she had reported stolen from her home, with no forced entry, while she was at work. Of course she had told the police the thefts were the work of Drew Peterson, but her claims were regarded as only suspicion. Drew’s possession of her stolen camera (by proxy, through Stacey) flaunted on her own front lawn, proved that her suspicions were correct. And it also proved that Drew Peterson could come and go as he pleased in his ex wife’s house, regardless of Kathleen’s wishes or protests. So there certainly was no need for a locksmith that night, and I’m sure that those who knew both Drew and Kathleen couldn’t have helped but roll their eyes at the transparency, and absurdity, of that event. Why not just call for back-up from his fellow officers if he was so concerned? The police have a right to break into any home and do a welfare check when requested by family members, and Drew could have waited outside as a “family member” and allow his fellow officers to go in and do the check. Instead, he illegally called a locksmith before, he claims, he knew there was anything wrong with Ms. Savio at all! And he sends her best friend and another civillian neighbor into the house rather than the police who are supposed to be the ones who do such things.



In my opinion, the livor mortis, and the position of the body when Steve Carcerano “discovered” her body, is the key to charging Drew Peterson with Kathleen Savio’s murder.



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Comment by Melissa Hoyle

December 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pm



Hi Naples!



What I believe is possibly what Peterson was thinking is that NO ONE would believe it was a slip- and-fall tub accident if they found her body face down in a tub full of water. It’s literally impossible to accidently fall and land in that position. The person would have to do a full “twist,” mid-fall, to end up face down.



If she had fallen while standing in the tub, and for some reason her feet had slipped out from under her while she had been facing the BACK of the tub (opposite the shower head), then she could have ended up face down, but the laceration to her head would have been located on her forehead… not on the back of her head.



I think Drew thought logically about the crime beforehand, when he was calm and relaxed, pleasantly planning the murder of Kathleen (and I personally believe her death was definitely a planned murder, and not at all a crime of passion.) I think he knew enough to realize there needed to be an injury to the back of her head to make the “fall-and-knock-herself-out-so-she-could-drown” scenario seem viable. And because of this reasoning on his part, I believe the blow to the back of the head was the first injury inflicted upon Kathleen. He somehow talked his way into the house with a ruse she believed to be genuine, and the first time she turned her back to him, he ambushed her by striking her in the back of the head with something he was sure would cause instant unconsciousness. But it didn’t… and she turned to face him and started fighting him fiercely.



His plan had gone awry, he was forced to improvise, and her ability to fight back and really hurt him was something he never planned on happening. He was forced to fight for the upper-hand and that impaired his ability to think within the confines of “the plan” and get back on track with his well -planned murder. This made him angry and the rage built until his strength easily regained the role of attacker, and he forced her head down, probably into the toilet rather than the tub. There is no reason to believe the tub would have been filled at that time. Pre-filling the tub would have been an ominous sign, sure to tip Kathleen off that something deadly was about to happen.



I think she probably drowned in the toilet, after which time Drew removed her clothing while filling the tub. Because he was still in a fit of rage, very angry at Kathleen for forcing him to cause several injuries to her that he might have to explain to the police… not his buddies, but the county sheriff’s office… and that wasn’t part of his plan! Because of his still-uncontrolled rage because of all that had gone wrong, he could not think logically at that time, and he hauled her off the floor and dumped her body head-first into the newly filled tub. Then he left in rage and disgust.



But, hours later, after he had given himself enough time (and probably enough booze) to calm down and begin thinking rationally, he realized her body could not be found the way he had left it. He needed to turn her onto her back, with her head immersed under water and the gash in her scalp on the back of her head. If she were found in this position, it might be believeable that she lost her footing… fell backwards putting the gash in her head and knocking her unconscious… at which time she tragically slipped, unconscious, under the water, on her back, and drowned in the full tub. But he was forced to wait too long before he could slip back inside the Savio home unnoticed and reposition her body so that it would be consistent with that “accidental falling death” scenario. He was probably surprised to find the tub empty where the water had slowly leaked out around the stopper. So he refilled it after repositioning her body and attempted to adjust the stopper so it would not leak again, but he failed at that task, it would appear. By the time he had restaged the scene, livor mortis on Kathleen’s body was able to tell a story of its own.


The front of her body must have been so purple that Steve Carcerano at first thought the object in the tub was a colorful beach ball! But because he had never seen a dead body that had not been embalmed and laid out in a casket, Carcerano was not aware that the discoloration was located in the wrong place for Kathleen to have died and remained in that position until he found her while doing a good deed for his friend, Drew Peterson.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 12:13:23 am »

I like the way she puts it all together. It makes sense, and is very possible.
I also think it is possible that Kathleen's body was floating ....rotating during the time she lay in the full tub and that could account for the discoloration on her face then as the water drained she rotated to her back, or it could have moved from bloating. When a body bloats the abdomen fills with gasses and will rise in water. The movement of her body could also have caused the tub to drain...maybe her leg/foot hit the drain lever... it could have been many things that caused her to move, including dp.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 09:02:50 pm »

Well, the pics are up at ashlens for the photoshop contest. I didn't make a new one and didn't enter my best one. I'll save my best one for the day dp gets arrested. I actually like the one of dp with a jackass, LOL!! It's not mine but it does make me laugh! Go have a look, LMAO!
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